Thursday, December 24, 2015

2015-5-15

Sorry, Greg/Dan- and Carey- I think I meant “he’s more local”?

Roy

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 Roy P. E. Yanong, VMD  |  Professor  |  Extension  Veterinarian
 Tropical Aquaculture Laboratory  |  Program in Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences  |   School of Forest Resources and Conservation  |  University of Florida / IFAS
 1408 24th St. SE, Ruskin, FL  33570  |  813-671-5230 x 104  |  Fax: 813-671-5234   |  rpy@ufl.edu
 Tropical Aquaculture Laboratory:  http://tal.ifas.ufl.edu   |   Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences: http://sfrc.ufl.edu/fish/  |
 Aquariumania podcast: http://petliferadio.com/aquariumania.html
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From: Gregory Lewbart [mailto:galewbar@ncsu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 1:49 PM
To: Yanong, Roy P.E.
Cc: Carey Cottle Jr MD; Gregory A. Lewbart; drdan@avianandexotic.com; drexotic2@hotmail.com; VHC Exotic Medicine
Subject: Re: I would like to consult you regarding cryptobia infection in discus

Dear Dr. Cottle,
I'm sure both Dr. Johnson and I would be happy to try and help.  I see cases through our Exotic Animal Medicine Service (EAMS) here at the CVM:

http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu/vhc/vhwc/exotics/index.html
To make an appointment you can call 919-513-6999.
Dr. Dan runs a large exotic animal medicine practice and is an adjunct professor at the CVM:

http://avianandexotic.com/
Thanks Roy and best to all,
Greg

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Yanong, Roy P.E. <rpy@ufl.edu> wrote:
Hey, Carey-
Sure, I’d love to help, but I think it would make more sense for you to be in touch with someone in NC.  Dr. Greg Lewbart and Dr. Dan Johnson (both cc’d on this email), two veterinary colleagues of mine who have a lot of experience with fish medicine (they are both excellent clnicians!) should be able to help you out.  Please let me know if/when they get in touch with you (or I’ll send a reminder (!)).

Greg and Dan-
Can one of you help Carey out?  She’s more local to you.

Roy

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 Roy P. E. Yanong, VMD  |  Professor  |  Extension  Veterinarian
 Tropical Aquaculture Laboratory  |  Program in Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences  |   School of Forest Resources and Conservation  |  University of Florida / IFAS
 1408 24th St. SE, Ruskin, FL  33570  |  813-671-5230 x 104  |  Fax: 813-671-5234   |  rpy@ufl.edu
 Tropical Aquaculture Laboratory:  http://tal.ifas.ufl.edu   |   Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences: http://sfrc.ufl.edu/fish/  |
 Aquariumania podcast: http://petliferadio.com/aquariumania.html
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From: Carey Cottle Jr MD [mailto:ccottle@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 12:13 PM
To: Yanong, Roy P.E.
Cc: ccottle@earthlink.net
Subject: I would like to consult you regarding cryptobia infection in discus

Dr. Yanong,

I’m in NC but would like to consult you and pay for your services in helping me with my discus.  I’ve consulted a vet here, Dr. Sam Young but he’s not an expert in fish.

My discus have a chronic wasting disease.  Three fish have been necropsied and I can send those reports to you if you wish.  They show stomach and other areas of granulomas that were negative for acid fast staining.  Dr. Wes Baumgartner suggested the most likely diagnosis was Cryptobia.  I was able to ID cryptobia in a stool sample once I knew what to look for.  I followed his suggestion to try dimetridazole (Emtryl) at 100mg/L.  I put the 2 discus who’d stopped eating in a hospital tank and used the bath for 7 days with temps raised in the tank to 90F and pH lowered gradually to 4.0 for the antibacterial effect.  Low pH does not kill Cryptobia, but the fish began eating again as soon as the pH dropped to 4.0.  The Cryptobia is gone from the last 2 stool samples after the dimetridazole bath.

However, I now have another larger parasite in the stool sample.  I don’t know what it is but it is about the size of a monogean.  I would like to get you to id it for me.  I can send a video is you are willing to help.

Thanks for your time,

Carey Cottle MD



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Gregory A. Lewbart  MS, VMD, Dipl. ACZM
Professor of Aquatic Animal Medicine
North Carolina State University
College of Veterinary Medicine
1060 William Moore Drive
Raleigh, NC  27607
greg_lewbart@ncsu.edu

http://www.cvm.ncsu.edu/vhc/vhwc/exotics/index.html
http://marinesci.ncsu.edu/

Saturday, November 14, 2015

2015-11-14

cleaned filter.
fish in QT with mouth ulcer with EES and kanamycin.  It's eating.

Px with thread or staghorn algae in main tank.

Saturday, September 12, 2015

2015-9-12 treatment for cyrptobia

10 gallon=38L

a bath treatment with dimetridazole (80 mg/L for 24 hrs,
followed by a 80-100% water change, repeated daily for 3
days); or b) a bath treatment with 2-amino-5-nitrothiazol
(10 mg/L for 24 hrs, followed by a 80-100% water change,
repeated daily for 3 days).

Emetryl=40% dimetridazole

Need 3040mg for 38L
.4X=3040mg
X=7600mg Emetryl

Also added 2-Amino-5-nitrothiazole 380mg  for 38L


Friday, September 11, 2015

2015-9-11 another sick discus

Golden Melon stopped eating about 2 weeks ago.  In QT 10 gallons(38L).
Started Mardel Clout (active ingredients in Clout are 190mg/tab of Metronidazole and 7.8mg/tab of Trichlorfon) yesterday


With
2-Amino-5-nitrothiazole 380mg yesterday and dropped pH to 4.0 for antibacterial effect.

I think I waited too long.  He doesn't look good.

Will do this for 3 days with 80% WC each day.

Monday, May 18, 2015

2015-5-18 underdosed dimetridazole

Just realized I underdosed dimetridazole bc of math error.
151L x 80mg/L=12000mg=12gm
But powder is only 40% dimetridazole therefore need 30gm of powder to get 12gm active ingredient.
So I'm trying again today.

BTW, very difficult to get isometamidium or almiramide.
Ordered, 2-amino-5-nitrothiazol.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15154736